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Any idea for pc requirements for the formations?
I got chisel II with Nora Glenys Darien Violet and Maddox
89.78.12.182 11:59, 8 April 2009 (UTC)


i got chisel II with Nora, Leshau, Darien, Loki, Gabriel Angellite 08:57, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

These are very preliminary, but they'll give you a good start:

Mattock I: 4x Qsiti, 4x Special, 1 Non-Special

Mattock II: 5x Qsiti, 3x Special, 2 Non-Special

Used Leshau/Pagus/Maddox/Sibal/Darien and Opus/Hyenn for testing. (Note: I couldn't find a 3rd Non-Special Qsiti w/ all attributes so I tried subbing in Garatia (only missing Mystic), but still couldn't get Mattock III. It's probably not in the PC version, like many of the overpowered formations).

(There's probably a 5x Phys and/or 5x Spd needed, haven't fully tested) - Corban1177 12:07, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

  • You probably don't need a third qsiti w/o special, because then you can't have 3x special and it'd revert you back to Wedge II. --Mizstik 18:18, 21 April 2009 (UTC)


Figured out exact requirements for Wedge 1-3 and Chisel 1-3. Example case for Chisel 3 is Jager, Caedmon, Pagus, Leshau, Maddox.

However, I can't nail down Mattock I. I tried replacing Jager with Darien and it still gives me Chisel 3. That's 4 qsiti, 4 special, 1 w/o special, and 5 of everything else. Mattock probably needs either:

4x qsiti, 2x w/o special, or

5x qsiti, 1x w/o special

In both cases I need Opus (qsiti w/o special) but I don't have him yet.

Btw, from what I see in Flail and Trident, Mattock 3 probably doesn't exist.

--Mizstik 18:18, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

I tried Darien, Caedmon, Pagus, Leshau, Maddox. That got me Mattock I. I think you haven't 'found' the formation in the game yet (so you're limited to Chisel III). Mattock III is possible, but has an absurd requirement. I'll update the article with the exact requirements soon.- Corban1177 06:59, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

  • Ahhh, yes indeed. I have two different saves, one for experimenting and another for grinding. I used the wrong one to experiment. --Mizstik 09:00, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Which union is the best to use this formation? Edit

Just asking because I just got it in a quest.Ellerkerm36 17:40, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

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